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February 24, 2017 By Tim Mann 7 Comments

Concrete Fish Tank Discussion

Concrete fish tanks (because of their labor and materials costs) usually cost as much or more than solid fiberglass tanks do. However, if you have free gravel and labor, they can be really cheap. If you don’t, they can often be more expensive than solid fiberglass tanks. Think twice before using concrete structures; they will still be here 1,000 years from now because they are difficult and expensive to remove. If you do use concrete tanks or troughs, make SURE you get them in the right place, and have any plumbing fittings installed in them before you pour or apply the concrete.

(Below) A concrete fish tank. If you decide on concrete, make sure you get them located perfectly (can’t move them), and get all your plumbing fittings in before the concrete sets up (it’s really hard to put a PVC fitting into hardened concrete!).

There MAY be an alternative to the following involved, caustic, and expensive rinsing process for concrete fish tanks, and that is to make the concrete out of high-silica sand that neutralizes the pH at or near 7.0 as part of the process of curing. This concrete is used by an organization called ReefBalls (http://www.reefball.org/concretespecifications.htm) and is neutral pH because the new reef organisms won’t grow on high pH concrete for several years after it’s cast and installed. The organisms grow on the reefballs immediately because the concrete is formulated specifically for neutral pH. We also know of a student in India who had no need to neutralize his concrete; apparently the local sand used was a high silica sand and the resulting concrete was a neutral pH. Try it and email us if it works!

CRITICAL!!!: If not using the ReefBall neutral concrete mix, you MUST wash the new concrete fish tank with an acid and then rinse to neutralize the high pH (alkalinity) of the new concrete, or the alkali will bleed off into the fish water and kill or stunt your fish, or result in a prolonged and difficult system start-up (we have plenty of evidence from students who DIDN’T wash their tanks completely). High pH, or highly basic water, acts on the fish and vegetables exactly the same way that highly ACID water does: it stunts and kills them!

Here’s the best way to neutralize your concrete fish tank: After your concrete has cured (if you don’t know what this means, you have no business building concrete tanks anyway) plug the drain in your tank, and apply the acid directly to the concrete using a brush with plastic bristles, wearing rubber gloves, protective face shield, cartridge respirator, high rubber boots, and long-sleeved protective clothing. You need a hose with a squirt handle on it right at the top of the tank so you can hose yourself off and dilute the acid in case you accidentally get some on your clothes or skin! The acid is known as muriatic acid, and is sold in hardware stores and building supply stores; it’s just another name for hydrochloric acid! After the acid has set on the concrete for an hour or so, rinse it off, but DON’T LET IT GO DOWN THE DRAIN! Leaving the acid and rinse water in the tank, now fill the tank to the top with the water (remember, you plugged your drain first?), and let it sit and soak for a couple of days. The diluted acid in the water will now have a chance to soak into and completely neutralize the highly basic new concrete.

Now drain the tank water off to a location where the acidic water cannot harm animals, plants, or people. When it is empty, rinse the inside of the tank well with a hose, letting this water go down the drain also. An ideal safe place is into an existing cesspool or septic system.

Now, check the pH of the water supply you use to fill your tank, then refill the tank to the top with new water and let sit for two days. After two days, check the tank water pH and compare to the pH reading you took of your water supply two days ago. If the supply water pH was 7.2, and after two days in the tank it is now 8.5 or higher, you need to repeat this process with the acid wash, sit and soak AGAIN because your concrete is still bleeding off alkali (base) into the water. If your tank water pH reads between 6 and 8, you’re fine and can start your aquaponics system.

The only exception to this might be when the supply water you started with is VERY basic, i.e. 8.5 or so. In this case, if you had pH 8.5 water, and after two days in the tank it was only 8.6 or 8.7, it’s probably OK to start your system. This is an area we don’t have a good solution for yet: how do you adjust your system if your pH is high? (See System Startup and Water Quality sections for more information on pH).

Important! If you have trouble getting the pH under control in your concrete fish tank for some reason, you can do what some of our students have done: either line the tank with a vinyl liner, or smear a thick layer of household paraffin (wax) on the inside of the tank. Both of these methods leave the inside of the tank a neutral surface that is safe for the fish. We’ve never gotten a concrete tank certified, though. To make sure your ability to get organic certification is not compromised, you should check with your proposed certification agency before committing yourself to concrete tanks.

WARNING! Do NOT try to bring high pH caused by having a poorly neutralized concrete fish tank in your system down by using citric acid! Citric acid is an organic HERBICIDE, and will kill your plants roots. They all turn black, then the plants all die (courtesy of one of our students whose name we forgot!).

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About Tim Mann

An innovator in aquaponics since 2007 with my gorgeous, brilliant, and amazing wife, Susanne Friend. When I'm not doing aquaponics, I love boatbuilding, surfing, sailing, and going to movies or the beach with my wife and kids.

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  3. Marra Brooks says

    October 23, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    I love the idea of doing your own concrete tank! Just imagine what it’ll look like in a thousand years. How well do you think it’ll hold up? I’ll do some more research before I make my final decision. It will be pretty permanent. Thanks for the tips and tricks!

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  4. Tim Mann says

    September 7, 2015 at 1:26 am

    Aloha Jon

    While the manufacturer of Rubberizeit can claim that it’s organically certified all they want, unless your certification agency approves it, that doesn’t matter a bit. The only opinion that makes a difference in this conversation is that of your proposed certification agency; they are God as far as this stuff goes.

    So, to make sure it is certifiable BEFORE you use it, get it in writing from the certification agency in question. To help present your case, you will want to also give them the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) from Rubberizeit, which is here for the “Dura” version: (http://www.rubberizeit.com/pdf/Rubberizeit-Dura-MSDS.pdf) and here for the “Universal” version: (http://www.rubberizeit.com/pdf/Rubberizeit-Universal-MSDS.pdf).

    Nowhere in the Rubberizeit website could I find any reference to it being organically certified.

    Hope this helped, Aloha, Tim………

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    • BT says

      June 26, 2018 at 2:21 pm

      Can you suggest if the inside of the the concrete should be whitewashed or should it left as is?

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      • BIDHU BHUSON SARKER says

        October 18, 2019 at 10:54 am

        pl. advise the process for cement tank preparation for fish farming.

  5. Jon Bergstrom says

    September 6, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    “Rubberizeit” liquid rubber claims to be the only liquid rubber that is organically certified. It is used to coat cetacean tanks at Sea World, etc. I know that safe for fish ponds doesn’t equal being organicly certifiable. Have you had any experience with their products?
    The material is the same as what you recommend for trough liners but in a liquid state.
    Quick drying and will coat anything from rusty stock tanks to plywood to concrete.

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